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CNN
Oct 11, 2012 11:00am PDT
that time that, president obama described the ideas for medicare and medicaid as serious and worth discussion. the president said he disagreed with the ideas and said they were of some substance and worth talking about and so paul ryan has been here before. he's been in this kind of environment before. he's gone toe to toe with the president as you mentioned in that issue. i think he'll be just fine tonight going up ainst joe biden. as for the facts, as for whether or not paul ryan was playing fast and loose with the facts in the republican convention, the romney -- you know, i brought this up with the romney campaign. they said look at what president obama said in the first presidential debate with mitt romney. the $5 trillion tax cut. they take issue with that figure. and so, i think the fact checkers more than busy tonight, brooke. >> jim acosta, see you next hour. >>> i want to talk about this debate tonight. usually the vice presidential debate gets limited attention. historically to game changer but that's not the deal tonight. after president obama's we'll call it less than
CNN
Oct 11, 2012 2:00pm EDT
medicare we will win this debate because the best way to save medicare is to repeal obama care. >> ask yourself, if what the republicans -- what romney and ryan are saying about obama and biden is true on medicare, why would the american medical association endorse our position? why would the american hospital association? and most importantly, why would aarp endorse what we are? they have no credibility. >> if you don't stand up to countries who are stealing our intellectual property, stealing our products then that sends a green light to the other countries around the world it's however you want it. it's wild, wild west. >> mitt romney ran bain capital. by the way, honestly, fairly. according to the rules. but "the washington post" said while he was at bain they were pioneer of outsourcing to china and other places. >> they voted against every single solitary opportunity to reduce the national debt if, in fact, it contained one thin dime in additional revenue that people making over a million dollars would have to pay. there are the facts. >> this debt crisis is most predicta
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 12:00pm EDT
template major savings for medicare on something like the same amount? >> only president obama raids $716 billion from the medicare program, he cut $716 from the medicare program to pay for obama care. >> right. >> we don't do that. >> you make savings, how much? >> point -- we -- i joined the romney ticket and what mitt romney is proposing to do is repeal all of obama care. >> more than a month later, rhine's quant programs are in need of a software update. >> how much in its revenue neutral. >> we'll get to the deductions but the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans' tax rates. >> how much does it cost? >> revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away deductions. >> that's where i'm going. >> we're going to get to that. >> lowering tax rates broadening the tax base works you -- >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> worse still, the public has begun to notice. >> where are the answers? i mean, why aren't you more specific? i heard you was it sunday whe
CNBC
Oct 11, 2012 5:00pm EDT
, well, president obama's proposing to cap the rate of growth in medicare to inflation plus .5%. so if you're going to cap the rate of growth of medicare much below medical inflation, the only way to stay under that cap is basically sand down reimbursement rates. and look at the projections out five to ten years, they're looking at reimbursement rates crossing medicaid rates. doctors, hospitals are paid very little relative to what they're paid in the private market. that's what they're proposing to do under medicare. the only way they're going to be stay under their cap is to sand down reimbursement rates for doctors, hospitals, other providers. >> and the talking point tonight will likely be that vice president biden will say the republicans are going to gut medicare and medicaid. what do you say to that? what's the truth here? >> well, governor romney's proposing also to put medicare on a budget. the difference is that instead of appointing a federal board to cut reimbursement rates, what governor romney's proposing to do is give senior citizens premium support. allow them to pur
ABC
Oct 11, 2012 4:00pm PDT
ryan's extreme positions on reforming medicare, president obama offered his advice. >> i think joe needs to be joe. joe understands what it means to scrap and you know, knows what it's like to see his dad lose a job. and when his, that heart and that story comes out, he's -- incredibly effective. >> abc 7's political analyst says biden needs to avoid the big mistake. >> i think the point is not to win the debate for biden but to avoid making mistakes and b, start the offensive that obama should have started on whether or not romney's move to the middle is credible. >> for example, push ryan on details about how he and mitt romney would accomplish revenue neutral tax cuts, mr. obama who is returning to washington from florida says he will watch tonight's debate on air force one. larry? >> thank you, mark. you can see the vice presidential debate between joe biden and paul ryan tonight at 6:00. after that, it's new drama "last resort" followed by "jep ti" and wheel of fortune" then at 10:00 a special presentation of "what would you do". >> the rift between san jose mayor and police and fir
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 10:00pm PDT
medicare thing and they are still trying to say, what a mean old person president obama and the democrats are. they ripped off medicare. for $716 billion. really, we're in the same medicare savings. it's the only real difference between ryan and romney that i can figure and in this case i actually agree with congressman ryan and he had to scrap it and now attack obama for doing what he did. >> sam stein, it seems to be so relaxing to be a former president as opposed to be a president prepping for a debate. the president did score some points on medicare in the last debate and i would expect that would be an area where joe died den wants to go this time? >> yeah. it's an interesting theory to choose paul ryan because they've had some several different plans now. they've gone from a conservative to moderate base. to the extent that biden can tar him or at least tie him to those earlier plans, that will be a success. and that was my past, i'm with the romney ticket now. this is what is at stake here. biden has to perform well because the expectations from the first debate have been
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 3:00pm PDT
pickings. his budget raises taxes on the poor. it makes seniors pay $6400 more for medicare coverage, all while giving millionaires a $265,000 tax break. meanwhile, he voted for defense cuts he blames on president obama and mr. fiscal conservative voted to increase the debt ceiling by $4 trillion under president bush. seems like right pickens to me, krystal. >> frankly, he can't be directly honest about the plans because they are toxic. it is not popular to fund tax cuts for the rich on the backs of the poor. that is not something that sells in this election. on the other hand, biden and obama have been very consistent and their policies are broadly popular. they are talking about restoring the middle class. they are talking about the american dream. they have a balanced plan that makes sense to americans. so i think it is very tough for paul ryan. not only does he have to defend his own budget but mitt romney's plans and he has to be able to reconcile the differences between what mitt romney has been selling and what his actual policies are. >> now, meanwhile, governor romney, chris, say
CBS
Oct 10, 2012 5:30pm PDT
appeal to a general election audience. but what the obama campaign says is, it's a bigger, broader strategy that on issues from medicare to taxes to now abortion, governor romney, who referred to himself as a "severe conservative," is now trying to hide that. >> pelley: john, thank you. for his part, in a radio interview, president obama tried to explain his debate performance of last week. >> pelley: polite or not, the next debate is tomorrow night. it will be between the vice presidential candidates, and we'll bring it to you live beginning at 9:00 eastern time, and that's 6:00 here in the west. anti-doping officials lay out all of the evidence against lance armstrong, and a girl who stood up to the taliban is gunned down-- when the "cbs evening news" continues. inues. piccolo headphonesxels place to sleep little roadster war and peace deep sea diving ninja app hipster glasses 5% cash back sign up to get 5% everywhere online through december. only from discover. get coricidin hbp. the number one pharmacist recommended cold brand designed for people with high blood pressure. and t
WETA
Oct 11, 2012 7:00pm EDT
joe biden there are two things one is to fill the blank of what the obama administration wants to do the next four years and not only policies but an energy and passion to win and do those things. finally probably he has to use the medicare issue with a ryan plan. the romney/ryan plan, is it politically unpopular? he has to bring that up. >> woodruff: how do you see it, mark? >> i would say with paul ryan, he's got to k k kp it going. the republicans are on a roll right now, they feel they're on a roll. but he should heed the council of robert frost to john kennedy who said be more boston and less harvard. i would say be more wisconsin more walk shaw than washington, d.c. he cannot give in words his powerpoint if he mentions sequestration oncetor committee as a whole or the motion to recommit eyes will glaze over he's got to stay on offense but at the same time he has to par tri differences between him and governor romney and especially changes that governor romney -- several incarnations that have gone to is going to parry that, not to get into the weeds but parry it. as far as joe
PBS
Oct 11, 2012 6:00pm EDT
, president obama took the issues of medicare and debt to the stage in washington. >> i will not allow medicare to become a voucher program that leaves seniors at the mercy of the insurance industry; with shrinking benefits to pay rising costs. >> reporter: with ryan in the front row mr. obama laid bare the agenda for a political season that hadn't yet arrived. in the primaries, former governor mitt romney said he fully supported the ryan plan, but he has since backed away from a complete endorsement. >> people become concerned. no changes for current retirees >> reporter: meanwhile, democrats across the country had seized on the ryan budget well before he was on the republican ticket. >> i think we have to remember that democrats were talking about paul ryan and paul ryan's budget months before governor romney even chose him to be his running mate, this was already an issue, it was already in ads, and something that was already part of the conversation at the congressional level, before paul ryan was named the v.p. running mate. >> reporter: here outside buffalo, ny, congresswoman kat
CNN
Oct 11, 2012 4:00pm PDT
save it in tact for the current generation. the biggest mistake that was made to medicare is obama care. i'm excited about pointing that out, and i'm more than happy to talk about the bipartisan solutions that we've offered. >> the last big moment on a big stage was your speech at the convention. >> right there at that plant, candidate obama said, i believe that if our government is there to support you, this plant will be here for another 100 years. that's what he said in 2008. well, as it turned out, that plant didn't last another year. >> you got hammered a little bit by democrats and even some republicans for some things that you said that were maybe loose with the facts. >> they weren't. i stand behind everything i said. if you try to distort what i said and say that was loose, that's one thing. let me make it clear. i think you're talking about the janesville plant. we never accused president obama of shutting that down. that happened before he came into office. i made that clear. he came to our plant and said that he would lead an effort to retool it to keep it open for 100
FOX Business
Oct 11, 2012 1:00pm EDT
romney say president obama, you're cutting the medicare program but the paul ryan plan has the same numbers. the details they squeeze out of paul ryan will be worth watching. cheryl: great stuff. fox business has live coverage starting at 8:00 eastern with our very own big cheese, neil cavuto on the scene. i asked what he thinks -- [talking over each other] he seems like he loves the big cheese and sucking up that we do, he appreciates. have you seen shares today? they are flying. lot of speculation the takeover target reports the japanese company could buy a majority stake and we head to the nyse for sales on that. cheryl: some good news on the housing front but not everyone. red tape is bogging down certain states. we will explain ahead and look at metals as we head to break as well. take a look at the gold trading higher on the day by 0.4%. we will be right back. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. nding more so companies and
Current
Oct 11, 2012 3:00am PDT
president obama closed down. and the $716 billion that they claim president obama cut out of medicare, when he didn't. i bet they try to claim that they are not going to cut taxes in way that willed a to the deficit, and i'll bet they are also claim that they are not going to raise taxes on the middle class, but they'll give the middle class a tax break. all of those lies we have heard before. and obamacare is a big government program. i don't think joe can be too aggressive. he doesn't have to be obnoxious. that's not his style anyhow. but he has to take on every single one of those. the other thing i think is is important for joe biden, i believe, that he has got to remember, that this is not for him. nobody is going to vote for him or paul ryan. if you are going to vote for just joe biden or paul ryan. if you want to vote for paul ryan and joe biden, you can't do that. it's not about paul or joe, it's about barack obama and mitt romney. and joe biden has to keep bringing it back to the fundamental choices. move forward with obama or move backward with mitt romney. i think
FOX Business
Oct 10, 2012 11:00pm EDT
other said no defense increases, obama has done nothing about defense. in his term. obama says no social security cut, romney says i agree, medicare, they make a big fuss about and they remind people nothing will happen for the next decade. neil: you be stepping this elect out? >> i see there is nothi to be gaining my issue, fiscal issue, the core of what threatening our economy our way of lif -- our future, i can not see we would make headline way. neil: the worries you had more than 3 decades ago, you still have today, you -- i know you have written about it, painted a worrisome picture for ronald reagan back then, did he ignore you then? what? >> well, the thing was that was a clean balance sheet, we had a trillion worth of national debt, that was a small fraction of our gdp, 30 years later we used up the balance sheet. neil: but at the time about he say, dave, stop it. you are depressing me? >> no. he basically said, one deficit was inherited from jimmy carter, let's blame him, and let's cut fraud, waste and abuse, he was unwilling to take on sial security. neil: he was of vie
NBC
Oct 11, 2012 4:30am PDT
. the economy takes the top spot for 51% of voters. those who said health care and medicare were the most important issues were most likely to support president obama. americans are evenly divided on their approval or disapproval of the affordable care act. >>> let's get back with christina loren. we're moving toward the weekend and a lot happening out there. >> oh, my goodness, between the game, the hail, the thunderstorms coming down in the south bay yesterday, it was quite a show. let's go ahead and show you some of the impressive highlights. we want to start with a picture of the bay bridge. as you can see here, it looks kind of clear but once that sun comes up, you'll notice those cumu cumulonimbus towers. it looks like it snowed in gilroy with quarter-size hail all over the streets. i want to point out some of the highlights from yesterday. we had penny-size hail near los gatos, quarter-size hail near gilroy an dime-size hail all the way toward hollister. at this point we're still getting the same pattern. very light showers on the western-facing slopes of san jose. a little ac
Current
Oct 10, 2012 8:00pm PDT
encourage the economy to grow again. >> so you're repealing obama-care but keeping the good parts of healthcare, social security and medicare for seniors and you're going to build more submarines and destroyers than the pentagon wants, i want to ask you a question. are you a wizard. >> i'm not going to layout a piece of legislation here. >> we can't wait to walk you through all the details math point by math point. there are some tricky--sasquatch tricky--sasquatch. sasquatch, you come here! you come here, no, no, yeti. >> hi there, it's a trolley. it's on the way to the neighborhood of make believe. that's where me and paul ryan get most of our facts from. >> the combination of limiting deductions and credits and exemption as well as the growth of the economy will make up for the reduction rate. >> i mean, do you have a royal family. >> yes, it's called the romneys. >> ha, ha, ha. >> eliot: as joe biden practices for his debate, we'll talk to the person who helped him practice for 2008. currentttttttttttttttttttttttttt nah, he's probably got... [ dennis' voice ] allstate. they can b
PBS
Oct 11, 2012 4:30pm PDT
and promote the top of the ticket. >> reporter: once again, medicare will likely be the star of the show. many democrats were disappointed president obama didn't take governor romney on in their debate, so democrats are looking to biden to do a lot of fact- checking. >> since ryan is the author of the ryan budget that would, as some believe, end medicare as we know it and create a voucher program, it's just hard to imagine that biden isn't going to come back to it over and over and over again. >> reporter: ryan will be defending his economic plan and mitt romney while also focusing fire on the president. it's a challenging assignment for the 42-year old congressman who is stepping into the national spotlight for the first time. and expectations are very high. >> if he does a good job, even if the ticket doesn't prevail, then he has a bright future in national politics. he may even be the standard bearer for the republicans in 2016. >> reporter: so if you want to get an early start on the next election, watch tonight for a glimpse of the political and policy debates you may be seeing
CNN
Oct 11, 2012 2:00am PDT
social security or medicare. >> but there is one big thing he says will change. >> if i'm elected, we won't have obama care. >> obama care or the affordable care act saved seniors $643 on average. the president says that would disappear. >> what happens is those seniors would pay over $600 more in prescription care. >> romney has yet to give specifics. romney hasn't said if he'll put a cap on spending. experts say a cap is needed to keep cost increases under control. bipartisan groups like the congressional budget office, they won't give romney's medicare plan a score without knowing if there's a medicare spending cap. romney's running mate, paul ryan's own budget says a plan he proposed in congress does include a medicare spending cap but romney isn't aligning himself completely. we'll see if that comes up tonight. you can expect the questions will be asked. >> i would not expect answers. extreme political advantage and a lack of specificity and mitt romney is showing that advantage. >>> saved along the shore. a man comes to the aid of a mamma in distress. dramatic video coming up. y
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 11:00am PDT
like the auto industry, it's bankruptcy. these are drastic differences. people living on medicare and social security, the romney position is these people don't want to take personal responsibility for their lives. the president says let's refer to health care. >> the 47%. >> the 47%. personhood. obama's pro choice. this character ryan is for personhood. >> he co-sponsored legislation. >> he wants to give the fertilized egg property rights, property rights which would create a criminal lieization situation for the mother. all i'm saying is don't argue about who's taking the $716 billion from medicare and putting it into health care, these are the arguments that boar people. if joe biden comes on, here are the big differences, i think they're right, i don't think they are, this is where we stand. it should be a good debate. it shouldn't be about going into the weeds. >>> not to wonky in the numbers. not going into the weeds but calling out what progressives and democrats call the lies that have been told by romney and ryan. i want to play what congressman ryan said at the rnc, a li
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 5:00pm EDT
. >> bailing out the auto industry, that's obama. >> fur you're for vouchers, the other guy is for medicare. that's nothing complicated. >> what are you doing later? >> it seems like a simple thing. a single woman who is concerned about her reproductive rights, you don't have to watch television to decide. i heard there was a swing among single women toward romney. they never talked about abortion rights. >> you have seen the back around fort with romney over the past couple days. he understands he has a women problem. en what did he do, he tried to soften his position on abortion. but what did his campaign do? they called tony perkins and said don't worry, don't worry -- >> who is the president, andrea saul or mitt romney. >> or tony perkins. >> in that campaign romney can say something on "60 minutes" he can say it on national television and sometime around 11:00 some fellow named eric fernstrum shows up and says he didn't mean that or andrea saul but 99% of the people heard the cosmetic pandering can the governor engaged in. i like that guy. and only in the midnight of the darkness when
FOX News
Oct 11, 2012 5:00pm EDT
anything to tout. if he talks about obama care, paul ripe is going to say you cut medicare $716 million. >> bob: that is my one more thing. leaving it aside, i don't think most debates matter. particularly, this one. one for everybody to talk about. in the councilmember, believe me, they are not going to get up in the morning to worry about what happens in this debate, any more than they worry about a coverup in libya. >> greg: kimberly? >> kimberly: yes. >> greg: i was in your fridge, you told me you'd leigh me some foodism watered your plants. >> kimberly: okay. that is a little strange. you probably were at my apartment. i'll have to talk to my doorman, security about that. >> greg: i paid them off. go to a ball called mermaids. it has a glowing blue bar on walnut and 4th. it serves s'mores. >> kimberly: i'm getting a lot of tips like that. i like s'mores a lot, too. i don't know if you know this, i did undercoffer research to term who would win tonight. little kissing contest. each of the debater tos. i have to say that the big winner, right here. that is my prediction. going out on
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 2:00pm PDT
obama's health care plan and send the 40 million suddenly uninsured into the emergency room letting them sit there. the romney/ryan team has other plans in place of medicare which covers people who have retired, it would offer them vouchers. vouchers. imagine some 80-year-old to get on that bus somewhere and go try to find someone to sell them a health insurance policy. good luck, granny. that's not the whole of it. listen to romney when you're not supposed to be listen pentagon the best time to listen to him is when he doesn't think you're listening. saying they have simply failed to take personal responsibility for their lives. nice talk. listen to romney say out loud if you have a pre-existing medical condition and don't have insurance, well, that's your problem because that was your decision. that's how he talks. the same with the automobile industry. romney -- obama stuck his neck out to rescue it for all kinds of good reasons. his challenger said let it take bankruptcy. these are the drastic differences these debates should debate and they better do it. i'm joined by john heilemann
FOX News
Oct 10, 2012 10:00pm PDT
afternoon, i listened on that whole hour show. yes, on tax policy, president obama is a bit -- is a tinkerer and the medicare, the affordable care act is an example. 2700 pages of tinkering. you listen to steve wynn and he is talking about fixing education to tinker with the tax code and give teachers special tax rates if the students do this, tax credit for this and that. the only way to fix education is school vouchers. so to me, they are both an example of, in the london school of economics professor, talking about the tinkerers, the people who see the economy as a great big engine and they are going to go in with screw drivers and tirvegger and fine-tune. it i am afraid the democrats are guilty of haand the republicans are there. they have different constituencies they are trying to support. >> greta: all right. if we were talking a year from now and assume two hypothetical, first one, president obama is re-elected. second one, governor romney wins. a year from now, are you -- which presidency is going to likely -- are you likely to hire more people under? >> well that's a tough
CSPAN
Oct 11, 2012 7:00pm EDT
load of b.s., excuse my language. you can't be doing that to me. i'm a democrat and i want obama . >> thanks so much. that $700 billion figure has been contested by both sides and it's medicare, not medicaid. can you give us your understanding from your reporting on what's really at stake there? >> yes. under the affordable care act, $716 billion in funding for the program called medicare advantage, would be cut. now that's not -- it's a secondary, almost experimental project that they had in medicare, to allow some medicare beneficiaries to choose to buy their medicare coverage with private insurance companies. it was supposed to be a money safer, it turned out to cost money. and that's one reason that the administration, in trying to finance the other provisions of the affordable care act, took money out of medicare advantage to do that. they agree this doesn't effect medicare coverage. what it does is effect the insurance companies that have benefited from medicare advantage but the romney campaign has definitely take an strong tone of attack against the administration for thi
CNN
Oct 11, 2012 7:00am EDT
factual inaccurate, like president obama was raiding $17 million from medicare, which is factually inaccurate. but i think the president learned a lot, he said it himself, from that first debate. ting the second one, you'll see him come out strong. but the reality is, i'm not interested, and i wish the american public, this is not "the voice." this is not "american idol," this is not about performances. this is about the facts of people's plans. and when i hear romney dodge time and time again, giving americans specifics, we're going to end up with a bush president again, who's going to give more tax cuts to the wealthy. >> but when he dodges specifics, though, he does say, this is something that i would do in the legislature. i wouldn't -- his answer for why he's not giving details. >> but he criticizes the president for saying the president should lead, he shouldn't wait for the legislature, he should come with a plan. i have the same problem in newark, i have the same problem in the state of new jersey. you've got to say, this is my plan. it may change, i'm willing to compromise
FOX News
Oct 11, 2012 1:00pm PDT
forward a reform. president obama has not put forward a reform. i sat this far away and asked, you can fix social security and medicare i will work with you and you will probably get re-elected if you do that but he refuses to do it. we met with him time and again and said, these are simple mathematical things that have to be done. it is no one's fault. it is because we had a lot of babies after world war ii and less babies in each successful generation and we are living longer. it is a demographic program, not a republican or democrat problem. it could be fixed simply if both sides come together. >>neil: thank you, senator. this bipartisan man to get this under control and thwarts the efforts that paul ryan has taken, that if anything he and his dad have said that plan doesn't go far enough and we have to take a bigger bite out the deficits and overall debt than we are doing now and the most aggressive plan out there. when we talk about cuts this is an oxymoron in washington as it is, maybe every where but walk, we are talking about curtailing the growth. no one has talked about rever
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 3:00am PDT
more on medicare than ryan or obama. and then you have obamacare. >> let me ask you really quickly. if anybody has heard, let me know. has mitt romney said what he wants to do with the $716 billion? >> essentially it would be used to get his spending down to that 20% level because you're going to see in a minute, he has a bunch of other places he wants to spend money. >> spend the $716 billion. >> take it and use it for other things. on obamacare, the last thing here, the little blue bar, as you can see, ryan and romney both want to repeal it. it's as simple as that. then it gets more interesting as you get into some other categories. on medicaid, there's a very clear difference. obama wants to keep it as a federal program. romney and ryan want to send it back to the states as a block grant program with about 20%. >> by the way, a lot of democrat being governors want that as well. >> fair enough. fair enough. >> i'm saying for viewers, this is something that democratic and republican governors want more control over medicaid. >> i get that. but let's look at the two really interest
CNBC
Oct 11, 2012 9:00am EDT
except taking $700 billion out of medicare to pay for obama care. and he offers nothing except a 15-member independent payment advisory board that will make decisions on whether or not, you know, my mother can get a hip replacement and ration the quality and access of health care. so you didn't hear me say no. i was the guy who was willing to negotiate and put something on the table that i didn't want to do. and that is tax revenues. but there was no democrat, no democrat willing to put fundamental entitlement reform to save medicare and medicaid for the next generation. wasn't put on the table. nobody can point to it. >> we will find out today, perhaps, if that does change. the debate tonight, i suppose you're here to tell me what a great debater joe biden is and how much experience he has doing this kind of thing. >> well, you know for a fact he's experienced. he's had 18 different presidential and vice presidential debates. he's debated in the u.s. senate for decades. he's very good at debate. not always so good on the stump. but he's very good at debate. unfortunately for him, w
NBC
Oct 11, 2012 7:00pm EDT
president obama and mitt romney have been arguing about, gives you a road map on what we expect to hear tonight. you will hear arguments over the budget, over medicare and taxes. and these two men, remember, paul ryan and joe biden were on opposite sides of the negotiating table, during the super committee on the failed budget, where they failed to reach agreement. so they have a lot of past history and will air their arguments in public. you will also hear joe biden bring up abortion, because mitt romney said just this week he didn't know of any legislation that he would go after abortion if he was elected. well, he and his team walked that back, but joe biden is going to try to interest women voters. and then, there is benghazi, you know they will go after that, a lot of criticism on the hill, spreading out after the campaign. both of them believe this is a way to get at the president and joe biden, their experience on foreign policy and try to dent their record. >> andrea mitchell, who will have a great seat tonight. thank you. >>> and with us, the moderator, david gregory, nobo
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 7:00pm EDT
support obama/biden. my name is madison and i'm here to support them because i do not want this next generation of women to go through what our previous generations have. >> okay. thank you. >> next person? >> for medicare. >> what do vouchers mean to you? >> vouchers mean to me that you're cutting the legs from under the medicare program. if it's good enough for me, it's good enough for a 55-year-old. no cuts for social security. >> i vote for obama. >> thank you very much. >> thank you so much. we're right back with more "hardball" and the vice presidential debate is coming up. buying this juicer online was unbelievable. what a bargain! [ female announcer ] sometimes a good deal turns out to be not such a good deal. but bounty gives you value you can see. in this lab demo, one sheet of bounty leaves this surface cleaner than two sheets of the leading ordinary brand. so you can clean this mess with half as many sheets. bounty has trap and lock technology to soak up big spills and lock them in. why use more when you can use less? bounty. the clean picker upper. [ male announcer ] how
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 4:00pm EDT
probably end up seeing. as we end up seeing in that health care summit with president obama in 2010 that paul ryan can come across, make his argument very well, so that's something to watch for tonight. >> indeed, professor dyson, ryan's policies are rather well-known. there's his budget cuts to medicare, 38 co-sponsored measures on abortion and his desire to privatize social security. so there's plenty to attack. where does joe biden start with paul ryan? >> he can't figure out the head or the tail. he's got to get some gut punches in, attack the body, and then ultimately the head. look, he's got to nail paul ryan, attach him to those policies even as paul ryan, using your pugilistic metaphor, attempts to slip the punches. joe biden has to continue to nail him. he has to say you are out here talking about vouchers for health care, you were out here talking about severe cuts to medicare, you were out here speaking with social security overhauling and you are the person who has been deeply and profoundly opposed to so-called obama care. he has to talk about that vicious budget. speak abou
CW
Oct 11, 2012 12:00pm CDT
republican plan to create a voucher system for medicare. polls show the race is tightening into a virtual tie. especially after last week's presidential debate. where mitt romney was widely viewed as the winner over barack obama. both sides say they're ready. >>i know how he will attack us. >>i think joe just needs to be joe. ryan is a smart and effective speaker. his ideas are the wrong ones. though biden is considered more experienced than ryan. political analysts say the vice president must avoid making one of his well-documented gaffes that end up distracting from the message. an issue that's sure to come up at tonight's debate is federal funding of amtrak. the company gets roughly one- point-four billion dollars a year in federal subsidies and counts vice president biden as one of its biggest supporters. biden has made more than 79- hundred round trips from wilmington, delaware to washington, d-c during his time on capitol hill. ryan's budget plan cuts federal subsides for amtrak and high speed rail projects. republicans favor privatizing the industry instead. national polls have the
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